Ruddy Pigeon (Patagioenas subvinacea): Revise global status?

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4 Responses to Ruddy Pigeon (Patagioenas subvinacea): Revise global status?

  1. Chris Sharpe says:

    Notwithstanding the recently published Bird et al. analysis, my opinion at the time (2011) was that it should not be considered threatened, so I support the decision to revert to the pre-2012 category. The species occupies a substantial geographic range from Costa Rica to N Bolivia, a similarly broad altitudinal range (to 2000+m), is protected by a suite of large, relatively secure protected areas (several without roads and in areas of very low population density), and tolerates disturbance. I believe it is considered nationally LC in Brazil, and I cannot immediately think of a national Red List that assesses it as threatened. We have always assessed it as LC in Venezuela though successive Red Lists.

  2. Dan Brooks says:

    Ruddy pigeon was always common and stable at my study site in the Peruvian Amazon (1994-2015). I support the decision of LC.

  3. I think what we overlook about Bird et al. (2011) method is that under their same categorizations but applied to west Ecuador a lot of Chocoan and Tumbesian birds should be heavily threatened. But their work was an specific approach to the amazon and its threats (infrastructure, mainly), they didn’t considered that some amazonian birds also have member subspecies in threatened habitats outside from the Amazon basin. In general, yes, Ruddy Pigeon can’t be considered an endangered bird as a whole species, but the berlepschi subspecies under Bird et al. (2011) formula might be facing some threats. I know that IUCN doesn’t have a categorization for subspecies, but what could be interesting is to keep in mind other races when reviewing a widespread bird in the amazon basin.

  4. Fernando Angulo says:

    I was surpised when the species was uplisted, since its a widespread and common species on Amazonia. On a recent survey I completed on southeastern peruvian amazonia, I made 60 100m-radius point counts on diverse type of forests treatments (logged, fragments, etc.), and I got Ruddy pigeons on 35 of the 60 point counts, counting at least 53 individuals. It was a really common bird. With such density, and vast EOO, I don’t believe reach any threeshold for being VU, but is fine at LC.

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